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	<title>Comments on: What is Critical Thinking?</title>
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		<title>By: Bonni Rambatan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonni Rambatan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comment Zak, and I&#039;m glad you brought this up. Yes, now you can see that I am for universalization and against the usual postmodern multiplicity (no wonder the general postmodern Left don&#039;t like me!). The postmodern critical attitude is problematic as you said, because people don&#039;t give a fuck anymore and all they care about is removing and deconstructing any reference point and any kind of universalism. What I aim for instead is to rebuild things after this point of deconstruction, to go and search for universal values once again, to think up a framework once again, albeit being fully aware that it will be deconstructed in the future.

The challenge for me is thus not to find a universal theory that will map everything, but to find an effective theory that can be used as a coherent framework for long enough before its next wave of deconstruction. The difference between my notion of less suffering and the general notion of spiritual enlightenment is that less suffering admits its provisional state of truth. Universal? Yes. Ultimate? Never.

(This also happens to be how I read Hegel -- his &quot;universal knowledge,&quot; I claim, already acknowledges its temporary state when read in juxtaposition with his dialectics and phenomenology. Many readers of Hegel call me weird, but hey, he&#039;s the big flashy impossible-to-read guy so I may be right after all, no?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comment Zak, and I&#8217;m glad you brought this up. Yes, now you can see that I am for universalization and against the usual postmodern multiplicity (no wonder the general postmodern Left don&#8217;t like me!). The postmodern critical attitude is problematic as you said, because people don&#8217;t give a fuck anymore and all they care about is removing and deconstructing any reference point and any kind of universalism. What I aim for instead is to rebuild things after this point of deconstruction, to go and search for universal values once again, to think up a framework once again, albeit being fully aware that it will be deconstructed in the future.</p>
<p>The challenge for me is thus not to find a universal theory that will map everything, but to find an effective theory that can be used as a coherent framework for long enough before its next wave of deconstruction. The difference between my notion of less suffering and the general notion of spiritual enlightenment is that less suffering admits its provisional state of truth. Universal? Yes. Ultimate? Never.</p>
<p>(This also happens to be how I read Hegel &#8212; his &#8220;universal knowledge,&#8221; I claim, already acknowledges its temporary state when read in juxtaposition with his dialectics and phenomenology. Many readers of Hegel call me weird, but hey, he&#8217;s the big flashy impossible-to-read guy so I may be right after all, no?)</p>
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		<title>By: Zak Sharif</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zak Sharif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you (for the most part) until the last past paragraph and a half. Your &quot;suffer less&quot; bit weakens your argument a lot. To make society suffer less is itself a goal that is structurally similar to making a &quot; normal, healthy, spiritually enlightened society.&quot; I get that you&#039;re lessening suffering through the articulation of better truths, but decreasing suffering and improving truths both require value judgments, which themselves require a means of universalizing judgment (moral or aesthetic).

Your definition of critical thinking runs into the core problem facing all post(or post-post)modernist thought: Once we&#039;ve reduced things far enough, who gives a fuck? People react this way because we remove their reference points by stating things like &quot;nobody really understands anything.&quot; Most of us are disgusted by those who purposefully skip over these problems because they are uncomfortable with the implications. But, we have to be careful that we don&#039;t skip over them in our efforts to understand them.

Still, good post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you (for the most part) until the last past paragraph and a half. Your &#8220;suffer less&#8221; bit weakens your argument a lot. To make society suffer less is itself a goal that is structurally similar to making a &#8221; normal, healthy, spiritually enlightened society.&#8221; I get that you&#8217;re lessening suffering through the articulation of better truths, but decreasing suffering and improving truths both require value judgments, which themselves require a means of universalizing judgment (moral or aesthetic).</p>
<p>Your definition of critical thinking runs into the core problem facing all post(or post-post)modernist thought: Once we&#8217;ve reduced things far enough, who gives a fuck? People react this way because we remove their reference points by stating things like &#8220;nobody really understands anything.&#8221; Most of us are disgusted by those who purposefully skip over these problems because they are uncomfortable with the implications. But, we have to be careful that we don&#8217;t skip over them in our efforts to understand them.</p>
<p>Still, good post.</p>
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		<title>By: Atherton Bartelby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atherton Bartelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was, quite possibly, the most concise exposition of the concept of &quot;critical thinking&quot; that I have read. Excellent piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was, quite possibly, the most concise exposition of the concept of &#8220;critical thinking&#8221; that I have read. Excellent piece.</p>
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